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In the fourth and final episode of this remarkable true story on MASTERPIECE, Alan Bates and his colleagues finally get to battle the British Post Office in court. Learn what other evidence was presented at trial, which honor Post Office CEO Paula Vennells ironically received, and whether Alan Bates is still fighting. [Contains spoilers.]

  1. 1.

    What Else Happened During the Group Litigation Trial?

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    Episode 3 sees witnesses from the Justice for Subpostmaster Alliance, the Post Office, and even a former Fujitsu employee take the stand in November 2018. Besides their testimony, what other evidence came to light in this first court case?

    During the trial, the Post Office was finally forced to disclose documentation it had previously claimed was irrelevant; this included log sheets “showing internet problems, network problems, which were causing the errors in the [Horizon] system, which in turn were messing up the figures and causing a financial discrepancy,” says real-life Alliance solicitor James Hartley in the documentary The Real Story of Mr Bates vs The Post Office, which is streaming online and will air on MASTERPIECESunday, May 5th at 7pm ET. “The transactions that had gone wrong had to be manually corrected. [Fujitsu] had teams of people doing that all day long. … These [log sheets] were multiple smoking guns.”

    When the final judgement was handed down in March 2019, “our side was totally crammed with people, Alan Bates says in The Real Story of Mr Bates vs The Post Office. “The other side of the court—there were just two people. They knew what was gonna happen. They knew which way this judgement was going to land.”

  2. 2.

    Does Paula Vennells Still Have the CBE?

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    On New Year’s Eve, 2018—while the Subpostmasters’ group litigation case was being tried—we see Alan Bates contemplate the announcement that Post Office CEO Paula Vennells is part of the 2019 New Year’s ‘Honour’s List.’ She was to be awarded the “CBE,” or Commander of the British Empire for services to the Post Office and to charity.

    At the time, the Justice for Supostmasters Alliance issued a statement noting it was “stunned at how inappropriate” the award was, according to Computer Weekly. “Surely they have made a mistake?” The situation was remedied only after Mr Bates vs The Post Office aired in the UK in January 2024. “More than a million people signed a petition for Ms Vennells to be stripped of her CBE,” reports the BBC. She was subsequently named “in a list published on the Cabinet Office website as an individual whose [honor] had been revoked by King Charles,” says The Guardian (UK).

    Vennells finally made a press statement that she was “aware of the calls from Subpostmasters and others to return my CBE. I have listened and I confirm that I return my CBE with immediate effect.”

  3. 3.

    Where Did Subpostmasters’ Shortfall Payments Go?

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    In Episode 3, Jo Hamilton finally poses the question we all want to ask: “Where did the money go?” Second Sight’s Bob Rutherford replies he can only guess that it first went to some temporary account, then showed up in Post Office profits. Has it now become clear how much money was unnecessarily paid and where it all went?

    It turns out the Post Office has yet to identify the total amount that accused Subpostmasters turned over and “has admitted that due to limitations in underlying accounting systems, it does not have a record of all the money paid,” according to Computer Weekly. “The money went into a general suspense account, rather than a dedicated one,” the Post Office told a parliamentary select committee in 2022.

    Former Subpostmaster and current MP Duncan Baker tells Computer Weekly “the Post Office has taken millions upon millions off postmasters.” The magazine maintains the monies “would have gone into the Post Office’s profit and loss account, and ultimately to pay the bonuses of its executives.” When Paula Vennells left her CEO post in 2019 for instance, she ended “a seven-year period as chief executive during which she collected more than £4.5m in pay…and bonuses,” according to The Guardian (UK).

  4. 4.

    Is Alan Bates Still Fighting for Subpostmasters?

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    After the 2019 court victory portrayed in Episode 3, Alan Bates tells his partner Suzanne he still wants to get the 555 Subpostmasters’ legal costs reimbursed and also seek charges against guilty parties in the Post Office. “Just think of it as a hobby that [has gotten] out of hand,” he tells her.

    And yes, Alan Bates is still fighting. After their court victory, the Justice for Subpostmasters Alliance requested a statutory public inquiry into the scandal; “statutory” meaning with the power to compel both witnesses and evidence. They got what they wanted in 2021. The inquiry is [as of this April 2024 writing] still ongoing. It acquired more urgency once Mr Bates vs The Post Office aired in the UK in January 2024. After the resulting public outcry, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak introduced legislation offering blanket exoneration to those Subpostmasters [in England and Wales] still not cleared of their convictions. “Once this legislation is passed and convictions have been quashed, individuals will be entitled to at least £600,000 in compensation to rebuild their lives,” he said in a statement to the House of Commons.

    You can stream the ongoing inquiry hearings on YouTube and follow updates on the status of overturned convictions and compensation on the British Post Office website.

  • Watch the documentary The Real Story of Mr Bates vs The Post Office on May 5th at 7pm, or stream on PBS Passport
  • Hear show creator Gwyneth Hughes discuss the finale on the MASTERPIECE Studio podcast
  • Read about the real people and the cast

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FAQs

How much of Mr. Bates vs. the post office is true? ›

Is Mr Bates Vs The Post Office based on a true story? Unfortunately, Mr Bates Vs The Post Office is indeed based on a true story. Back in the early 2000s the Post Office introduced a new technical system called Horizon that was intended to make the day-to-day jobs of Sub-postmasters easier.

What happened with Mr. Bates and the Post Office? ›

In 2018, Bates and five other lead claimants took the Post Office to the High Court in a Group Litigation Order. The judge ruled in 2019 that Horizon contained "bugs, errors and defects", leading to the Post Office agreeing to settle with all 555 claimants.

What year was Mr. Bates vs. the post office? ›

In 2009, a group of these, led by Alan Bates forms the Justice for Subpostmasters Alliance. The prosecutions and convictions are later ruled a miscarriage of justice at the conclusion of the Bates v Post Office judicial case of 2019.

Did Mr. Bates get compensation from the Post Office? ›

Mr Bates, who took over a Post Office counter in Llandudno, north Wales in 1998, was among more than 500 people who received an average of about £20,000 after the High Court ruling in 2019.

How much older is Mr Bates than Anna? ›

Bates is a good 15 years older than Anna, and while he's a perfectly good-looking chap, Anna is stunning. Even in a maid's uniform with her hair severely pulled back. “Bates and Anna seemed unlikely at first,” says Coyle.

Who does Mr Bates end up with? ›

Anna insists on marrying immediately in case Mr. Bates is arrested, so she has rights as his wife. They get married in secret but they planned to tell everyone after Lavinia Swire's funeral, as only Mary Crawley and housemaid Jane Moorsum knew.

Do Anna and Mr Bates marry? ›

Bates. Head housemaid (and Lady Mary confidant) Anna, married the valet to the Earl of Grantham, Mr. Bates, in an unassuming registry ceremony. After many obstacles, including an ex-wife who may or may not have killed herself, Bates and Anna finally get their moment to make lifetime vows.

Is Mr Bates' wife still alive? ›

Where is Suzanne Sercombe now? Suzanne Sercombe is alive and still with her partner Alan who is still working to help those affected by this scandal. It is unknown if Suzanne ever had cancer in real life and whether she and Alan ever even wanted children.

Does Mr Bates go to jail? ›

In order to save Bates, Anna visits Bates' mother, discovers his marriage to Vera Bates, and that he does not love Vera, and that he went to prison for a theft that Vera committed. Due to this evidence, Bates does not leave Downton.

Is Mr Bates vs The Post Office based on a true story? ›

This documentary tells the true story of one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in British legal history. When money started to seemingly disappear from its local branches, the government owned Post Office wrongly blamed their own managers for its apparent loss.

Who is Angela in Mr Bates vs The Post Office? ›

Angela van den Bogerd was a 33-year veteran of the Post Office organization, working in various positions including head of partnerships. In 2010, she began handling complaints about Horizon, and in 2013, was part of a Post Office working group formed to deal with the scandal.

How long did Mr. Bates fight the Post Office? ›

For 25 years, a group of these workers – led by Alan Bates (played stoically by Toby Jones in the series) – has fought to clear their names. By 2020, a few of them slowly began to have their convictions quashed, and an inquiry was announced in 2021, but it appeared to be stalling.

What was the reaction to Mr Bates vs The Post Office? ›

To date it has been watched by a staggering 9.2 million viewers. The drama has stirred public indignation and pushed ministers to accelerate the justice process for the postal staff wrongly accused. It has also caused Paula Vennells, the chief executive of the Post Office from 2012 to 2019, to hand back her CBE.

How old is Mr. Bates' post office? ›

Alan Bates (subpostmaster)
Alan Bates
Born1954 (age 69–70) Liverpool, Lancashire
OccupationFormer subpostmaster
Known forFounder of the Justice for Subpostmasters Alliance (JFSA) and campaigner in the British Post Office scandal

Has anyone been held accountable for the Post Office scandal? ›

The timeline of events in the scandal has lasted more than two decades and still nobody from the Post Office or Fujitsu has been held accountable. The case, considered the country's biggest miscarriage of justice, was brought back into the public eye by the ITV drama, Mr Bates vs The Post Office.

How much compensation did the Post Office get for the Horizon scandal? ›

The government is determined that postmasters affected by the Horizon IT scandal receive the compensation that they deserve. As of 1 March 2024, approximately £179 million has been paid to over 2,800 claimants across 3 schemes: Horizon Shortfall Scheme ( HSS ): £107 million.

Who are the real people in Mr Bates vs The Post Office? ›

Husband and wife team Michael and Susan Rudkin were in the post office business for many years, running a branch in South Yorkshire between 1995 and 2004, and then Susan running a branch in Leicestershire while Michael became executive member of the National Federation of Subpostmasters.

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